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The first trillion is always the hardest.
by /u/Onii___Chan____ | 107 comments | 2026-06-17T02:03:38+00:00 Central
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| /u/Goatknyght All you need to do is make a company Sell a 0.000001% share of that company for 15 dollars Now you are a bajilionare |
| /u/MrSteel1 You would still be poorer only $1.5T |
| /u/Fast-Score2439 No that is 1.5 billion. X = market cap 0.000001% of X = $15 X = 15/0.000001% X = 1.5 billion Put 3 more zeros friend |
| /u/Instance9279 I will hate it even harder ! |
| /u/Wheredapassion Makes me want to add 4 more zeros and sell a share for $1.5 |
| /u/thankyouihateit You called? But yeah, agree. |
| /u/Economy_Professor637 The YouTuber Max Fosh did this once. Was the richest person in his country for a few minutes before getting an "ahahaha very funny and creative now take it down before you get arrested for fraud" |
| /u/mushychimpfoxtrot Crazy that Max was threatened with fraud but this SpaceX charade is allowed to go on |
| /u/AwesomeFrisbee Its because its only fraud if you are poor |
| /u/Entchenkrawatte Same for the GameStop stock situation a few years ago lol. Fraud if the reddit people do it, but fair game for the large hedge fonds |
| /u/realqmaster Laws don't apply to the rich, duh |
| /u/EverIce_UA SpaceX revenue totalled at ~$18 billion, and an aerospace company trading at such R/P ratio is just crazy. The reason for such a hype is, well, hype. Investors think it's a safe bet, others were sure that people will invest heavily and want to jump on this train to make some money. None of the fundamentials suggest such a price, the initial IPO evaluation of $135/share was already nonsensical, and was boosted further by hype. Also keep in mind that only 5% of the shares are traded publicly now, so the whole company is valued according to the price of only 5% of the company. The aforementioned youtuber and his experiment with selling a single share of an empty company for £50 is the exact same situation we have here. In conclusion, Musk's assets maybe valued at even $10 trillion, but I'd like to see him try to liquidate (sell for actual money) it for the full price (he won't be able to do so) |
| /u/The_Old_Chap But thats not the point. None of them will liquidate, thats not how they get the money. You just get a loan and put stocks as collateral. Having a trillion dollar company was never about the possibility of cashing out |
| /u/TomCormack It is. It made its name as a space related company, and was pretty succesful at it. Then suddenly hiddenly switched to AI, and made AI the legal coreof the IPO. They switched to AI after Musk forced SpaceX to acquire unprofitable Twitter and xAI. Both are just draining money from SpaceX' rocket and Sitelinks parts of the business. Also there is some shady stuff happening with the criterias for IPO. For example NASDAQ changed their own regulations specifically for SpaceX. And so many people will automatically buy SpaceX whether they want it or not. It is a big scam. Musk made a healthy niche company into a Frankenstein monster and then ordinary people will pay for Musk's and his friends' cash out. |
| /u/Spiritual-Spend8187 Got to privatise profits publicise loses. It was all about getting some one to hold the bag and this time they are forcing you to hold the bag. |
| /u/grandramble I used to think the one thing Musk might actually prize higher more than money was space travel, but it turns out the robot who will tell you whatever you want to hear is even higher on the list |
| /u/Fallcious He got himself into a game where the only goal is to be the richest and he has won by being the first trillionaire. He probably feels empty inside and hopes the next trillion will finally fill that aching hole inside. |
| /u/NeitherShine7067 Nicely summed up. Paul Krugman had a detailed write up basically saying the same thing. https://paulkrugman.substack.com/p/elon-musk-human-ponz i-scheme |
| /u/fang_xianfu None of that is actually hidden though, they were relatively transparent about this, it just turned out not to matter for the hypebeasts who are buying it. Also regarding Musk's "$1T revenue by 2030" statement recently - let's not forget that he is banned from making statements like this about Tesla due to a settlement he made with the SEC for violating their rules about disclosures - if he had been prosecuted instead of settling, one of the potential punishments was being permanently banned from being a CEO. |
| /u/MrHyperion_ The rocket tech is very real but the market value is not. |
| /u/Globe-Denier Yes, both are frauds, the man and the company |
| /u/Corona21 Is it not registered as a data/computer company? Is that the first thing you think of when you think of SpaceX? Not fraudulent in of itself, but there are signs. |
| /u/thankyouihateit I keep thinking about theranos and nikola, and i wonder how their promises were different from elons. I think they were charged with misleading/fraud because they attempted to substantiate their claims? While elon jusy says things? I honestly don't fully know how one is fine and the other isn't |
| /u/PeachScary413 It's only fraud if your are poor 🤌 |
| /u/Adventurous-Bottle90 This is unironically what happened |
| /u/PintsOfGuinness_ Tell me where to send my 15 dollars so I can be friends with a bajillionaire |
| /u/Stranger-Tingzz Steps to becoming a trillionaire: - Stop buying $9 Starbucks coffees - Stop going out to eat - Find 1g of antimatter |
| /u/Dimensionalanxiety Important caveat, find 1g of antimatter AND effectively contain it enough to be safely sold. 1g of antimatter annihilating with matter has the energy yield of a small nuclear bomb. |
| /u/Eros_Incident_Denier Enough to blow up the Vatican? |
| /u/Long_Plan_1736 Wasn't that thr plot of a da Vinci code ? |
| /u/Percival_Dickenbutts [The critics said his writing was clumsy, ungrammatical, repetitive and repetitive.](https://onehundredpages.wordpress.com/2013/ 06/12/dont-make-fun-of-renowned-dan-brown/) |
| /u/manrata But also repetitive. |
| /u/apep713 It is the plot of illuminati - never read A&D so don't know if he used it twice. |
| /u/ShylyPompus No no you are correct , he used illuminati in A&D and priory of Sion in Da vinci. He uses mysterious organisations but not the same twice. |
| /u/jlreyess That was the joke but it was Angels and Demons, close enough |
| /u/heyitscory Yeah, I assumed threatening people with my antimatter bomb was how we were getting the trillion dollars. |
| /u/Speartree https://giphy.com/gifs/BZlNhp9L5WINi |
| /u/YourPhrenologist Damn, I had already began searching under the bed, I'm pretty sure I had one of those laying around. |
| /u/TheQuietLavender You also need to find a way to convert it to money rather than a bullet to the back of the head. |
| /u/Shadowlance23 Instructions unclear. This plan blew up in my face. |
| /u/No_Mercy_4_Potatoes Or in Elon's case, lie through your teeth and make unrealistic promises to investors to pump up your share price. |
| /u/Garchompisbestboi Create an IPO for your shitty government funded space company where you only release 5% of the company's shares onto the market. Wait for a bunch of self proclaimed "apes" to fight over that 5% and drive the share price up due to artificial scarcity and fear of missing out Claim you are a trillionaire because you kept 95% of the company to yourself and base the value of the shares you kept off of the value of the ones on the market. Congratulations, you're now a trillionaire. Just don't ever sell any of that leftover 95% or the share value will tank and you probably won't be a trillionaire anymore. |
| /u/borobinimbaba How do you weight antimatter? Need to know if I have reached 1g yet or not |
| /u/Boosted_JP If Musk suddenly lost 99,9% of his current wealth, he would still be... a billionaire. |
| /u/Paryln No, what's a crazy fact is that if you earned a dollar a second, it would take you 32 years to make one billion dollars. A trillion is 1,000 times more. How much would you have to be making a second to make that amount in four days? |
| /u/AggressiveSpatula A little under 3 million per second by my math It's crazy to think he's working *that* much harder than the average American. What a true hero of the people. |
| /u/ChocolateHumunculous And he is currently worth 1.4 trillion, so it's way more than that, still! |
| /u/LazerKittenz There are 345,600 seconds in 4 days. To make one trillion dollars in that time, you would need to be generating ~$2,893,518.52 per **second** |
| /u/rydan Here I am averaging $1 barely every 20 seconds. |
| /u/JuggrnautFTW If you won a $5 million lottery every day for the next 525 years, you still wouldn't have as much as Musk. |
| /u/cuntmong what if he lost 99.9% of his blood |
| /u/DantifA He'd be a libertarian goth |
| /u/sweetdawg99 Only one way to find out |
| /u/MiceAreTiny I don't know. But, I am more of an experimental scientist. |
| /u/Hironymos Well, then he'd be hungry again. |
| /u/melanthius He'd still have more than a billion blood cells |
| /u/TheDebateMatters If Musk suddenly lost 30% of his wealth, the American tax payer would bail out his business as he is too big to fail. |
| /u/round-earth-theory No he's not. The only company that would create a shock is SpaceX. Evening else could crash tomorrow and the world would move on. The Tesla supercharger network would be the most impactful to daily life. There's nothing else that we really need as a society from him and neither of those need the ridiculous sums listed. Yes I know, the investor class. The fucking morons and grifters that have created a situation where we trade a stock like crypto. Yes that'll suck but it's a better suck to let it crash and move on. We don't actually need him or the fake value. |
| /u/cross_the_threshold There's too much wealth chasing nothing of value, the "economy" is basically just wealthy people trying to figure out who holds the bag when the economy resets to a value based baseline. Like if Elon tried to sell SpaceX tomorrow no one would be lining up to pay 2.5 trillion or whatever it's "worth" at the time of this comment, it's not actual real value. They're all just buying the hype in the hopes they can profit until something fails. Usually you'd want an economy like this to invest in, y'know, actual businesses and startups trying to generate value or capital, but because nothing means anything anymore and god is dead they're all happy to throw hundreds of billions at the most laughably awful SEC filing in history because what the fuck else are they going to do with all that money. |
| /u/tardoos Do you really think "too big to fail" ever referred to actual use to society? It was always about investors. |
| /u/-reTurn2huMan- And for many Americans just missing one paycheck means they can't afford rent, groceries, gas, etc. A healthy society cannot have these two concepts coexist. |
| /u/iravu_R who needs a society when youre a trillionare? ive heard enough. 1 more trillion to musk |
| /u/Which_Pirate_4664 I mean, we've started to see some solutions to that problem in recent years, if you get my drift. |
| /u/Owl-Of-The-Night02 So you say we should tax him 99%? |
| /u/pauseless It is really not unheard of to tax the ultra-wealthy. Post-war Britain had the highest tax band for income at 99.25%. In 1974, 83% but 98% if that income was from investments. The Beatles had the famous song Taxman complaining about being taxed 95% ("there's one for you, nineteen for me"). |
| /u/Lostwhispers05 The difference between a trillion and a billion is about a trillion. |
| /u/BuddyFlapjack And that would still be generational wealth. All his miserable offspring would be set for life, and all their kids, and so on... There's absolutely no reason for one man to have 1,000 billions of dollars. And yes, I know, most of it isn't liquid/cash. But that's not the point. It's wealth, which is a finite source in society, being kept out of reach from the other billions of Americans who need it. |
| /u/AliceCode His net worth is approximately one trillion more than the next wealthiest person. |
| /u/trn- if he died today the earth would be a bit more pleasant |
| /u/pilasai He must have stopped buying avocado toast on day 3. |
| /u/cremaglitch and don't forget those damn lattes |
| /u/cremaglitch you have a good taste too |
| /u/Whhatsmyageagain And rotisserie chickens. Might have canceled "The Netflix" too. |
| /u/m3ss1a4 Tbf Netflix really dont deserve my money. All shit films. |
| /u/Inside-Example-7010 you gotta get up early in the morning. Thats the main difference. If you can wake up at 5am every day you are 90% of the way there to a trillion dollars. |
| /u/notmentallyillanymor You gotta do better than 5 am. I know because I get up at 12:01 am. It's the first minute of the day, making me the earliest worm. |
| /u/inktitan Who gets eaten by the early bird. Sleep in. Don't get eaten. |
| /u/Illustrious-Water877 At that rate he's got the GDP of the observable universe sooner |
| /u/QTown2pt-o There is something much more shattering than inflation, however, and that is the mass of floating money whirling about the Earth in an orbital rondo. Money is now the only genuine artificial satellite. A pure artifact, it enjoys a truly astral mobility; and it is instantaneously convertible. Money has now found its proper place, a place far more wondrous than the stock exchange: the orbit in which it rises and sets like some artificial sun... Speculation is not surplus-value, it is a sort of ecstasy of value, utterly detached from production and its real conditions: a pure, empty form, the purged form of value operating on nothing but its own revolving motion, its own orbital circulation. The self-destabilization of Political Economy is thus what puts paid, in monstrous and somehow ironic fashion, to all possible alternatives. What possible riposte could there be to such extravagance, which effectively co-opts the energy of poker, of potlatch, of the 'accursed share', and in a way opens the door to Political Economy's aesthetic and delusional stage? This unexpected demise, this phase transition, this wild bull market, is fundamentally far more original than all our old political utopias. |
| /u/Lego_Nabii "Whole new theories of money were growing here like mushrooms: in the dark and based on bullshit." ― Terry Pratchett, Making Money |
| /u/logicalconflict Do you see now how great the economy is doing and how inflation doesn't matter? Just look at how much money *we're* making! Trillions! We are so great again. |
| /u/pnkxz -German factory worker, 1923 |
| /u/besiakl The math ain't mathing, but the compounding interest certainly is." |
| /u/rheaiya Bro is playing real life on Creative Mode. |
| /u/der-maulaff And he choses to bei a real life griefer, which destroyes the fun for everyone else. |
| /u/Dweebler7724 It's my perspective that he probably wouldn't be a trillionaire if he wasn't also a POS and a loser |
| /u/inTsukiShinmatsu Compounding isn't this fast |
| /u/TheRedLions And stocks don't pay compound interest. It feels like people keep assuming this is money in his bank account |
| /u/meANintellectual77 An alarming ammount of people dont even know what stocks actually are |
| /u/Olivetax228 I'm pretty far left, hate musk and this administration as much as anyone, and all that. But Reddit's financial illiteracy and disdain for educating itself about it is really frustrating. Makes it difficult for me to identify with this voter bloc. |
| /u/Purple_Havoc I'll save you the math. System is bullshit. |
| /u/HarmxnS It's more than bullshit. I'd say big blue whale shit 600 billion in 6 days 100 billion every day 4,16 billion per hour 69 (nice) million per minute 1.1 million per second |
| /u/CCP-want-to-CUP Dude is playing irl Adventure Capitalist. Must've just ascended. |
| /u/Sir-Hamp Ah shit, didn't know people were really out there sacrificing angels in real life. Shoulda seen this coming. |
| /u/IHateTheLetterF It's not even real money. |
| /u/ddplz ALL money hasn't been "real" money ever since they dropped the gold standard. |
| /u/horatiobanz And Musk's wealth that y'all are losing your minds over is even less real than that, because its pure speculation that can literally never be realized at its current valuation. |
| /u/Morpha2000 And why does it matter that it cannot be liquidised? Banks still allow him to take out loans against it. His purchasing power is still proportional to his net worth and nobody should be allowed to have that amount of sheer capital with how little he gives back to society. |
| /u/Yesyesyes1899 i said that months ago. with how things work, it ll get so much more. he will borrow real money against the bullshit numbers of his value and make more money. |
| /u/MedonSirius He started buying Cursor with Stocks from Spacex. So, with free money |
| /u/HT1990 Cursor is basically worthless. It's mindboggling how someone would pay 60 billion for a glorified IDE, which doesn't have any value add over open source solutions or the frontend of Claude. |
| /u/carc At this rate he could spend $60 billion a day and still be in the clear, bro is just shopping |
| /u/Yashema Cursor is an IDE on steroids, which is probably why Musk likes it. |
| /u/HT1990 Thought he'd prefer one on ketamines. But maybe he needs to balance it out. |
| /u/moldentoaster Do you know how it is if you sometimes go to the penny store and you buy this chaep crap you know is actually just decorative bullshit that can break within a few days, but you buy it as it is just a couple of cents and in this moment you find it kinda funny ? This is how musk feels about buying stuff for 60 billion |
| /u/bradmatt275 There are so many clones now as well. Unless he gives away free tokens there is nothing really keeping users there. |
| /u/Spare-Half796 Yeah his wealth is all propped up on the irrational value of Tesla and spaceX stock. Neither company should be valued anywhere close to what they are |